What I am ashamed of is what the Chinese government has turned its people into: blind, faithful followers without access to truth (hrm, and one of them mentioned the Nazi movement – irony).

I was raise with the value that the Chinese people should be honest and honorable. Spoken words alone should be enough to make a promise. If you say it, you mean it, you deliver it. (for time reference, I am 30).

Today: Even written/signed contracts don’t mean anything to the Chinese government/companies, I’m sure as many of you have learned.

Breaks my heart to think/read that so many modern day Chinese people buy into the charade the government has created.

Look for good English, would be the first step.

In general, we seem to be getting angry, aggressive and nationalistic comments back from those writing for (and perhaps even being paid by) China. We are NOT getting an even mix, which suggests that we hit some kind of tripwire for the Chinese government.

Offense may be the best defense, but it does not pass the smell test on this blog, where we have rules against personal attacks, and try to encourage the use of real identities, and the rational discussion of world problems.

I think we have here a fascinating psychological profile of how the Chinese government itself feels about the U.S. – the “party line,” as it were.

It isn’t pretty.

I’ll end with one sentence that puts it in its place: I’ve complalained about the US for eight years running, and no one says the US is perfect, but the behavior attached to the China Model I have described here is, generally, much worse.

My advice to Chinese Communist Web cops: exchange your aggression for thoughtfulness, and forget all the red herrings about “everyone’s doing it.” Everyone is not doing it: you are.

Instead, ask yourselves: do we even have good data on our own country? As far as I can tell, you do not, which is the reason China censors Google, an infamous fact known to those in the West, and then publicly claims it does not censor the Net. Those in the West have to laugh at this clownish attempt to deceive – whom? Only those inside the Great Firewall of China.

You should consider: you might feel very different about the West, and about China, if you had full access to information.

I hope this access happens soon, but I do not expect it. Until you do have it, no one will listen to your advice, since your information foundation is insufficient.

People pretend hypocrisy is actually a bad thing here. The US needs to match exactly what China is doing in order to compete. Whether or not it’s “hypocritical” is simply irrelevant.

Do you think China cares if what they’re doing is hypocritical? Or do they care more about what’s best for them? The point is to criticize them while denying doing the same thing they do. In fact, that’s exactly what China does whenever they denounce [foreign] protectionism while applying protectionist policies at home.

Not only must we bolster our own advantages, we must speak and act in ways that prevents the opponent from being able to compete with us. That’s how it’s been since the dawn of history. It is a struggle on both fronts. Modern Westerners live in some bubble of delusion where they believe that if they’re “nice”, others will emulate them like a role model.

It is the sad state of things that only East Asians are savvy enough to put money and pragmatism before morals and “honor”. But we have realized now that the West is a slow-witted, incorrigible man whose senses have been dulled by decades of decadence. No amount of council, however prudent, has proved to change this fact. The unfortunate truth we face now is that both South Korea and Japan must stand alone when history repeats itself and China inevitably tries to bully us again.

Intellectual property is certainly the crown jewel of the developed world’s economy. But how is intellectual property’s ownership determined?

In America, engineers, mathematicians, and scientists often sign away the ownership rights of their discoveries to corporations for job tenure. Does anyone believe that such corporations are incapable of protecting their rights, even in China?

In these matters there are no knock-offs; a process that is new and advanced receives a specific patent for that process. Changing the process and developing something new is creative work, too. The patent only protects the one process, not its derivatives.

IF Americans are concerned about the erosion of our technological paramountcy we should be studying law, commerce, math, science and technology insteand of creationism.

This post looks like NY banker being upset because there are finally some other big players on the world stage who are able to stand against USA abusing its power. I find this post annoying.

The author has some points. Let discuss his points.

1. Steal Intellectual Property.

What else can they do? Intellectual properties/patents are to extert money from poorer countries/companies and prevent them from reaching a position were they can compete. USA is allowing to patent seeds and the big companies producing one time seeds can make the agriculture completely dependent on their seeds making the farmers completely dependent on it. To hell with Intellectual Property rights since they are often used to extort money and prevent progress. The initial great idea to protect the inventors was turn by army of lawyers into an excuse to prosecute anybody who does not have enough money to defend himself in courts.

2. Use Slave labour.

This is so funny. In USA the working class has seen its wages frozen for many years. People have to work 2 jobs to afford health care, education of their kids. Now they are even being forced to buy healthcare. USA has even worse form of slavery cold debt slavery. They even tax people so they can provide them proper retirement but Social Security is just one big scam because the goverment will have no money or the money will loose its purchasing power. In USA the workers work benefits big corporations which are often flooding other markets at low price to kill the competition.

The chinese middle class is rising, the USA middle class is in huge decline and their savings rate is negative.

4. Subsidizing key industries.

USA was not doing it all? What about steel industry?

They are creating a competetive advantage. They give their industries the money and the power to compete on their own on the world markets. What are they then suppose to do with USA $? Keep them until they get the value of the toilet paper?

5. Prevent or restrict unwanted imports. 6. Use the currency manipulation.

Yes, and the USA is not doing that. They are happy about debasing the currency so their exports can be more competetive even they maintain a mirage that they are interested in a strong dollar policy. You also play this game but
you are being beaten by the Chinese.
You have used the status of the petrodollar to your advantage for a long time. You have arbitrarily withdrawn from the obligation to change dollar to gold. China is just following the example of USA.

8, Complain about Free/Fair trade.

Fair trade? USA overthrowing goverments in Latin America (confession of the economic hitman John Perkins) to be able to buy their resources cheaply. Fair, by far not from the USA side. Chinese at least use their money on the free global market to buy resources. USA is using their armies in Iraq to grab the remaining oil reserves.

Free? Congress is creating so many regulations that your capitalism is no longer free. It is crooked capitalism for corporations who have access through lobbiest and money to kongressmans.

It is a blog entry filled with hypocrisy.

Chine is a communist country with elements of capitalism which seems to be going in the right direction when it comes to domestic freedoms in economy.

USA was a free capitalist country, once time great since based on Constitution of USA which was the greatest document ever created by mankind. Now, USA fits the definition of a fascist country as Mussolini described the country were corporations merge with the state.

China is the only rising superpower which is capable of putting the USA in check and makes sure it does not abuse its powers at least on internation state. However, they will not care
and rightly so for your fate. Although you are
the elite of NY, possibly a banker (?), so you
will enjoy your life until the next revolution (if any) happens in USA.

best,
Radek

If you remember George Orwell’s “Politics and the English Language” from 1946, he writes,

“The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies ‘something not desirable’. The words democracy, socialism, freedom, patriotic, realistic, justice have each of them several different meanings which cannot be reconciled with one another. In the case of a word like democracy, not only is there no agreed definition, but the attempt to make one is resisted from all sides.”

Generally, criticism of China or any other country for that matter, must be couched in some kind of comparative basis which assumes certain values countries should “aspire” to. Are you a proponent of more democracy? Are you arguing that Free Trade means no country can have subsidies?

In this case, the author has taken gone through great lengths to illustrate how China is still “communist”– but does he mean authoritarian? Does he mean China’s not run by a legitimate government? Does he mean China’s fiscal policies are irresponsible? Does he mean that China lacks civil rights a la the US? Is he looking for the Dalai to be MLK Jr to China? Is he proposing somebody rise up? Maybe he’s proposing all foreign journalists should protest @the Square.

If one wants to use systems of government and economics like swear words that have no meaning– you might as well say China has a “shitty” or “really bad” or “stupidhead” government and then afterwards discuss what type of government you are ARGUING FOR.

Would you like to discuss nation building (e.g. Iraq and Afganistan)? Would you like to discuss the development of South Korea and Japan? Would you like to discuss what it takes to raise a significant portion of your population out of poverty? Those are generally the important questions of the day, that most Westerners have powerpoint presentations but no experience in handling. Even George Sr. said it takes a Carpenter to build a barn and it only takes a Jackass to kick it down. There’s almost nothing constructive about your article and it just sounds like someone wining about a country they might know something about (maybe), but don’t care enough about to do anything about.

To me, this post has about the same value to me as some blogger dude who writes, “China blows” and then copy-pasted an NYT editorial about a(fill-in the blank: IP, Currency, Political Prisoners) China issue.

Though, because I am in a pissy mood, I did have a fun time taking this article and this “blogger” to task.

Thanks for chuckle,

FC

1. Steal IP: IP treaties came from the fact that companies in countries like the UK and US were constantly stealing each others IP.
2. Slave Labour: The US’s industrial revolution was built on dirt cheap immigrant labour and the USs continued growth relies on it right now. Ask a Mexican.
3. Stolen IP resold: again, how much IP did Americans steal from the Brits and Germans and then sell back to them? Come one!
4. Subsidize Key Industries: the US and UK do this TODAY!!! America was built on government subsidizing transport, telecom, agriculture, steal, etc. etc.
5. Restrict Imports: Seriously? The US doesn’t have some of the strictist import rules and quotas in the world? Wait, it does.
6. Currency Manipulation: No American or US government entity has ever done this? I think a quick search will show entire economic collapses pinned on the currency gaming of America.
7. Price for Export, Discourage Consumption: Though certainly unusual, it has happened,even in the UK or US
8. The Appearence of Free Trade: Come on!!! Does free trade really exist in all of the pacts between the US, Canada, and Mexico? No!
9. Encourage Foreign Investment without Foreign Control: There are plenty in the US govenment and in US business who would love that. The fear of foreigners controlling anything in the US is strong.

For the non-sheeples who actually use their brains to think rather than repeat the same mantras, it’s pretty easy to laugh at the author’s points. Reverse Engineering = Stealing IP? The automobile industry around the world buy each other’s products ALL the time to reverse engineer features. For all of the other “methods” of stealing IP which Chinese is being accused of, why not point out the most obvious one: exec hiring? When Google China hired away MS exec to be the president of its China Operations, did Google hire this guy because this guy is smart? No, Google hired the guy so google would find out the process and strategy which MS is trying to use to conquer the market. Corporations around the world do this all the time. So foreign companies come to china treats its Chinese execs like dirt, what do they expect will happen? Loyalty?

Next, the author complains about the “slave wage” which the Chinese workforce gets. Does it ever occur to the author and fellow citizens of the West that in places like China and India $1 USD per hour one can actually afford a fairly decent lifestyle? “Slave wage” is just another excuse for the wealthier nations who cannot compete because their citizens are used to wasting goods.

The author’s next few points deal with Chinese government’s attempt to protect their own economy. Government subsidizing key industries? Has the author ever heard of Government bail out for Auto and Bank industries in the US? Protectionist policies for certain industries? Currency manipulation? Which country DOES NOT do this?

The problem with the author and those who support this sort of neo-McCarthyism is that they want to blame their current position on anyone but themselves. Instead of whining about China, why can’t the Americans even agree on something as simple and commonsense as universal healthcare? Instead of spending money on military build up why doesn’t Americans spend it on education? No one forced Americans to buy Chinese goods, there are plenty of 3rd world nations which offers to make cheap goods. China became a powerhouse because it is more competitive.

Rather than hoping for China’s demise, which would affect billions of people, not to mention the entire Asian economy which depends on them exporting to China (heck China is US’ third largest importer), why don’t the Sinophobes use their brains and think of ways to improve their own countries?